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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:26 pm 
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I've never ran a blue reg. I've always used the red with the blue pump. What size is your fuel line? Did you check for trash in your filter too?


I was told by Holley tech support that a blue pump would overwhelm a red regulator. Sounds like from your experience that's not the case. That was how I had it plumbed at first, then I got to thinking about it and asked them and they told me the red regulator couldn't handle the blue pump's 14 psi. So at that point I switched to the red pump thinking all would be well. The fuel line is 8AN from the pump to the regulator on the firewall and then 6AN to each carb. I know its overkill, but eventually I am going to convert the car to EFI/Turbo, so then I will need the gigantic capacity, and I will also run a 6AN return line from the back of the car to the tank at that point too. Everything in the fuel system is new, and I checked the filters when I started having problems, not a single piece of debris in either of them. I really like the idea of the return-style regulator though, It makes way more sense to me to let the pump do its thing at full capacity and then only use the amount of fuel the car needs at any time and send the rest back to the tank, rather than limit the amount of fuel the pump can put out. All limiting the pump's output like that is going to do is cause it to work harder and generate more heat, and it seems in the case of a red pump at least to become horribly inefficient. So the plan is to add the return regulator right after the pump (under the gas tank) and set that pressure to about 4-5 psi, then back in the engine compartment fine tune the pressure to 3 psi with the red regulator right before the carbs.


If you run the return-style regulator I would run the Mallory one and loved it before switching over to Barry Grant pump & reg. Also don't run the -6 line, run -8 line. You want to get the fuel back into the tank just as quick as you want it to go to the back of the car. Are you running a liquid filled gauge or a standard fuel pressure gauge? If your running a liquid-filled one take out the liquid-filled inside or get a standard one. They give false reading on them. I have a good friend that runs NHRA Top Alcohol dragster and he told me about that on his digger. I didn't believe it so on my car I had two gauges ( One standard and one liquid-filled ) and sure enough it was off reading by 3-4 psi. Which for IDA's you can bend the floats real quick. :roll: If your needing any help call me bro..

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:10 pm 
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Although I am in no way an expert on the subject but I ran the Blue on my bus for over 12 yrs with no problems.

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:21 pm 
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Thanks for your help Meredith. Yeah, I'm starting to think the red pump is a piece of junk. I'll try it with the return regulator in the system and if it still gives me trouble I'm switching back to the blue. I've heard about that issue with the liquid filled gauges before, and that's what mine is. I may pick up a standard gauge when I get my regulator just to see if there is any difference. Hopefully I'll get this all ironed out this weekend, I want to drive that sucker! My next purchase then will be an LM-1 and AuxBox 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:39 pm 
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Although I am in no way an expert on the subject but I ran the Blue on my bus for over 12 yrs with no problems.


Did you use it with a Holley red regulator?

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:21 am 
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I did some looking around on Holley's website last night, here's what I found: They recommend using EITHER the red or blue regulator with the blue pump depending on the pressure range you need. I guess the tard I talked to on the phone at Holley didn't get that memo :roll:
I'm thinking now that before I even buy a bypass regulator I'm going to stick my blue pump back and and see what happens, I already have it so I have nothing to loose by trying. If that does the same thing I'll pick up as bypass regulator and give that a try...

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:32 am 
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mk-Zero wrote:
I guess the tard I talked to on the phone at Holley didn't get that memo :roll:
I'm thinking now that before I even buy a bypass regulator I'm going to stick my blue pump back and and see what happens...
That is always a good thing to do more research! :P

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:36 am 
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I guess the tard I talked to on the phone at Holley didn't get that memo :roll:
I'm thinking now that before I even buy a bypass regulator I'm going to stick my blue pump back and and see what happens...
That is always a good thing to do more research! :P


I'm gonna put that blue sucker in there friday night and then go do some "test runs", are you off work? :P

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:42 am 
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mk-Zero wrote:
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mk-Zero wrote:
I guess the tard I talked to on the phone at Holley didn't get that memo :roll:
I'm thinking now that before I even buy a bypass regulator I'm going to stick my blue pump back and and see what happens...
That is always a good thing to do more research! :P


I'm gonna put that blue sucker in there friday night and then go do some "test runs", are you off work? :P


Yep,I have to go pick up THEBUCKET.....I am pretty sure he will want to come even with jet lag :D

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:36 pm 
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So whats the word? Did it work better with the blue pump?

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 Post subject: Re: 55 oval
PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:08 am 
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I put a non-oil filled gauge in and a bigger hose and filter between the tank and the pump and now the pressure doesn't budge! I still need to mess with the jetting a little, but it's running really good now! 8-)

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